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| WHAT | | defeated by Austria | | 47% | [ 9 ] | | outwinked in QF by Portuguese | | 15% | [ 3 ] | | out in the SF | | 0% | [ 0 ] | | lose in the final to Romania | | 0% | [ 0 ] | | Loew has affair with Zwanziger's wife | | 36% | [ 7 ] |
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lih88 Trialist


Number of posts: 23 Supports: Россия Registration date: 2009-10-08
 | Subject: Re: SACK Löw, Bierhoff, Zwanziger NOW Fri Oct 16, 2009 3:50 am | |
| I really don't understand why German fans wants to sack Löw. It evident that they have not too much arguments |
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Number of posts: 2258 Age: 29 Supports: FC Hollywood Registration date: 2006-08-22
 | Subject: Re: SACK Löw, Bierhoff, Zwanziger NOW Wed Dec 02, 2009 2:10 pm | |
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Number of posts: 25382 Supports: Feyenoord Favourite Player: Dirk Kuyt!!! Registration date: 2006-08-07
 | Subject: Re: SACK Löw, Bierhoff, Zwanziger NOW Wed Dec 02, 2009 2:44 pm | |
| You are a sackophile Otto, I'm pretty sure the apprentice is your favourite TV-show! And you have the same haircut as Donald Trump Because I am willing to sexually please you, here it comes Otto...You are fired! |
|  | | Allez les rouges First Team Substitute


Number of posts: 5108 Age: 97 Supports: Deutschland, Arsenal Registration date: 2006-08-07
 | Subject: Re: SACK Löw, Bierhoff, Zwanziger NOW Wed Dec 02, 2009 3:55 pm | |
| Otto has a Trump hairstyle?  |
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Number of posts: 2258 Age: 29 Supports: FC Hollywood Registration date: 2006-08-22
 | Subject: Re: SACK Löw, Bierhoff, Zwanziger NOW Mon Feb 08, 2010 11:36 pm | |
| I am not sure how many of you FOREIGNERS have noticed BUT the MANNSCHAFT will be set FREE after the next World Cup Löw, Bierhoff, Ziegenthaler and Co are effectively OUT what did it take to get rid of them ? GREED and LUST for POWER contract negotiations that looked like a done deal suddenly collapsed when Bierhoff decided to "take over the DFB" as Beckenbauer saw it the old tossers in Frankfurt (+ Netzer, Beckenbauer, Effe, Kahn...) were NOT pleased and effectively told the metrosexuals they could pack their scarves and leave the building major league moaning and bitching ensued over the following days ("he said, she said") everybody is sulking some fear that our campaign in South Africa will be jeopardized but NOBODY seems to care in the Vaterland EVERYBODY is just chuffed to bits that the oestrogen days are over and German football will once again be driven by TESTOSTERONE Heynckes is the LEADING candidate to replace the girls Sammer another contender Hrubesch would be MY favourite anyway, foreign chaps enjoy the next months when German football will still be in the hands of the BITCHES 2004-2010 (ie the Klinsi/Löwi ERA) was what will one day be known as Germany's football DARK AGES 2010-2030 will be when EVERY Cup will go to the Vaterland troops, bar those where we self-destruct because I have been lying to you Germany , currently, does not have an Endless Conveyor Belt of Talents it's a VERITABLE TSUNAMI of GERMAN TALENT that is about to hit the global football shores in other words the global Football Gold Standard will be Black , Red. Gold once again and the best you Johnny Foreigners can hope for is that one of your best players will be deemed good enough to play in the Bundesliga anyway I certtainly had a few glasses of champaign in celebration of the end of the Oestrogen Era feel free to do the same it's been a nightmare to be a Germany fan for the last 6 years HORRIFIC the mental scars we Mannschafters got will last for a life-time MANY of you foreigners are quite EVIL but I do not wish ANY of you the PAIN, HORROR and SUFFERING that we German MEN went through anyway the days of German WORLD DOMINATION are BACK  |
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Number of posts: 1897 Age: 26 Supports: Deutschland Registration date: 2006-08-30
 | Subject: Re: SACK Löw, Bierhoff, Zwanziger NOW Tue Feb 09, 2010 8:54 am | |
| Bierhoff is already back-pedalling, Otto and a peace summit is in the making. So, don't get too excited! You could be setting yourself up for a massive let-down here.  Welcome back anyway!  |
|  | | Axeslammer Manager


Number of posts: 17221 Age: 37 Supports: Leeds Utd / FC Groningen Favourite Player: Van der Vaart, Bergkamp, Le Tiss Registration date: 2006-08-07
 | Subject: Re: SACK Löw, Bierhoff, Zwanziger NOW Tue Feb 09, 2010 9:13 am | |
| Van Gaal might be German by that time  |
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Number of posts: 1079 Age: 25 Supports: Germany, Bayern, Karlsruher SC Favourite Player: Özil, Trochowski, Gomez Registration date: 2008-04-11
 | Subject: Re: SACK Löw, Bierhoff, Zwanziger NOW Tue Feb 09, 2010 9:37 am | |
| I already started to wonder if otto survived new years celebrations Because if these news don't let him show up here, what else would? I hope they dont get another contract after the WC. It will certainly be interesting who gets the job then. I think Sammer is the favourite. |
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Number of posts: 1897 Age: 26 Supports: Deutschland Registration date: 2006-08-30
 | Subject: Re: SACK Löw, Bierhoff, Zwanziger NOW Tue Feb 09, 2010 9:48 am | |
| Seriously, I think that people are getting their hopes up way too early. A good amount of fans on the internet may dislike him, but objectively seen, the DFB have no reason whatsoever to sack him. Löw has a higher points per game average than any of his predecessors. The fan satisfaction with the NT is at an all-time high (according to survey results). The complete football intelligentsia of this country (Franz, Uli, Kalle, Netzer, Effenberg, Lattek etc.) are backing Löw. None of them has ever publicly voiced any real displeasure with his work. And match-going fans aren't publicly calling for his head either. They are whistling players, yes, but there have yet to be any "Löw, RAUS!" shoutings. If Löw stops siding with Bierhoff, then I am fairly sure that the DFB will want to extend his contract after the WC (provided we don't get our collective asses kicked in SA). |
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Number of posts: 1079 Age: 25 Supports: Germany, Bayern, Karlsruher SC Favourite Player: Özil, Trochowski, Gomez Registration date: 2008-04-11
 | Subject: Re: SACK Löw, Bierhoff, Zwanziger NOW Tue Feb 09, 2010 10:02 am | |
| Yeah, you are probably correct, espoecially the players seem to like him. If he doesn't fail at the Cup, its hard to sack him. And Löw might do anything to keep this job, cause he likes it very much. I just hope Bierhoff dont get his veto, cause I don't like him and he doesn't like Sammer for some reason. Much will depend on the World Cup imo. |
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Number of posts: 5108 Age: 97 Supports: Deutschland, Arsenal Registration date: 2006-08-07
 | Subject: Re: SACK Löw, Bierhoff, Zwanziger NOW Tue Feb 09, 2010 10:44 am | |
| "I certtainly had a few glasses of champaign in celebration of the end of the Oestrogen Era"  sounds like it Otto  Not even Kaymer winning something and various amusing happenings with "the englands" was enough to bring you back... Hotte as the favoured candidate should Jogi leave is the only bit I agree with  |
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Number of posts: 1897 Age: 26 Supports: Deutschland Registration date: 2006-08-30
 | Subject: Re: SACK Löw, Bierhoff, Zwanziger NOW Tue Feb 09, 2010 10:51 am | |
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Number of posts: 1079 Age: 25 Supports: Germany, Bayern, Karlsruher SC Favourite Player: Özil, Trochowski, Gomez Registration date: 2008-04-11
 | Subject: Re: SACK Löw, Bierhoff, Zwanziger NOW Tue Feb 09, 2010 11:46 am | |
| Yeah, heared that on the radio. Will get interesting. Could go from having clear fronts in regards to the WC up to the announcement of a new coach... I still think its the first but wont rule out anything. DFB can't ignore things like that from Bierhoff. My guess: A new contract if Bierhoff resignes from his veto desire. Which he will do, because he dont want to lose his job. |
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Number of posts: 2258 Age: 29 Supports: FC Hollywood Registration date: 2006-08-22
 | Subject: Re: SACK Löw, Bierhoff, Zwanziger NOW Tue Feb 09, 2010 1:00 pm | |
| the pressure on Löw and the DFB to patch things up until the World Cup is huge the 2pm press conference today should show this HOWEVER this will only be a TRUCE, as demanded by Vogts, Völler, Dummenigge and Co ------ I think most of you have NO IDEA how HATED Bierhoff is at the DFB and the Bundesliga word on the streets of Munich is that Rauball entered the Präsidiumssitzung last week with SPECIFIC instructions from the Bundesliga CLUBS to curb Bierhoff's ambitions this is NOT just Bierhoff vs Zwanziger it's Bierhoff vs EVERYBODY (bar Löw) the Chuzpah of that bastard takes some beating he wanted a) a multimillion BONUS (during times when banker bonuses get 80 million Germans furious and people talk about Hartz 4 "Tarife") + remember, the Mannschaft has not even been above average successful recently, and is now so unpopular in some German cities that they cannot even fill an entire stadium, like in Hannover b) he wanted to take over the DFB; the president was just supposed to hand over his power to Bierhoff  c) he wanted to represent the DFB at UEFA and FIFA level which currently only Beckenbauer and Zwanziger do so really, Zwanziger would have to stay in Frankfurt so that Bierhoff can go  d) he also wanted to be allowed to fill his own pockets again by working for NIKE, the DFB arch enemy  Bierhoff is so dicredited it's unreal YET Netzer and Lattek are WRONG when they think that he is only acting on his own behalf both Bierhoff and Löw have said a million times that they are a team and discuss everything in other words, Bierhoff says what Löw agrees with  Löw is now FURIOUS and even called Zwanziger a LIAR there is NO WAY Löw will drop Bierhoff either IF Germany become World Champs or runners-up, the DFB would no doubt give BOTH new contracts and more money, but I doubt Löw, who is VERY STUBBORN , would accept  incidentally nice little irony Frings and Ballack were FURIOUS with Löw for treating Frings without the respect they thought a Mannschaft veteran of over 70 games for the Vaterland deserved Löw did not seem to get this NOW Löw is furious that the DFB give him a 48 hour ULTIMATUM he believes that as a Leitender Angestellter of 6 years he DESERVES BETTER maybe Löw should not expect a kind of treatment by the DFB that he is unwilling to extend to his own players  as for häschen why do you still defend the Bundescremer ?  your own lover-boy, Metzelder, just gave an interview in kicker, where he savaged Löw  |
|  | | Allez les rouges First Team Substitute


Number of posts: 5108 Age: 97 Supports: Deutschland, Arsenal Registration date: 2006-08-07
 | Subject: Re: SACK Löw, Bierhoff, Zwanziger NOW Tue Feb 09, 2010 1:19 pm | |
| Not available online I suppose... was he whingeing about not having been selected?! Hm, some classic zurückrudering from Bierhoff judging by the Liveticker  Trying to pretend that the whole thing should never have been blown so far out of proportion and that everything will be swept aside with the WM in mind  Hard luck Otto  |
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Number of posts: 1897 Age: 26 Supports: Deutschland Registration date: 2006-08-30
 | Subject: Re: SACK Löw, Bierhoff, Zwanziger NOW Tue Feb 09, 2010 1:26 pm | |
| Friede, Freude, Eierkuchen Revolution officially called off. All like each other again.  @ Otto I don't defend Löw. I don't even mind if the DFB were to sack him after the WC. But you must be living out in La-la land if you assume that Zwanziger is going to axe Löw when he's delivering results. And Löw won't resign either. Coaching the NT is the highest office in state and Löw knows that.  |
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Number of posts: 1897 Age: 26 Supports: Deutschland Registration date: 2006-08-30
 | Subject: Re: SACK Löw, Bierhoff, Zwanziger NOW Tue Feb 09, 2010 1:29 pm | |
| Löw is majorly back-pedalling as well. Bierhoff is no longer a must in his team after the WC.  |
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Number of posts: 17221 Age: 37 Supports: Leeds Utd / FC Groningen Favourite Player: Van der Vaart, Bergkamp, Le Tiss Registration date: 2006-08-07
 | Subject: Re: SACK Löw, Bierhoff, Zwanziger NOW Tue Feb 09, 2010 1:31 pm | |
| What were the chances of Löw being sacked after Otto made this thread ? .....he's made the same threads about Schaaf, Benitez and Van Gaal  |
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Number of posts: 2258 Age: 29 Supports: FC Hollywood Registration date: 2006-08-22
 | Subject: Re: SACK Löw, Bierhoff, Zwanziger NOW Tue Feb 09, 2010 2:13 pm | |
| | Allez les rouges wrote: | Not available online I suppose... was he whingeing about not having been selected?!
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Metze was FURIOUS with Löw
and said the Swabian had made him a scapegoat for the 2008 fiasco
he also felt that Löw had been UNGRATEFUL
and dropped him like a stone when things were not going well
Metze also does not understand why Löw NEVER watched a game in Madrid even when he was playing well
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Zwanziger will indeed NOT sack Löw
but Löw has said a million times that he will only continue this job as part of a team that features Bierhoff, Flick, Zeigethaler and Köpke
so much so that Oliver Pocher made an entire Sketch about it
he also REPEATEDLY said that he would only sign a new contract , if certain structural changes were made, if he saw PROGRESS
despite today's press conference, the DFB is clearly FINISHED with Bierhoff
Zwanziger said Löw was irreplacable, but NOBODY else
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14.22 Uhr: Zwanziger bestätigt, dass es bis nach der WM keine weiteren Gespräche geben wird: "Wenn ein gut gemeintes Projekt mal so in die Hosen geht, muss man vielleicht auch mal Zeit vergehen lassen."
14.20 Uhr: Zwanziger erzählt, wie er die Vertragsangebote, die ihm Bierhoff übergeben hatte, empfunden hat. Es habe darin ein "Ungleichgewicht" gegeben. Heißt vermutlich: Bierhoff hat wohl tatsächlich eine Art Ausgliederung der Nationalmannschaft gefordert. Zwanziger versichert aber: "Ich habe Oliver Bierhoff gewollt, weil wir ein Gesicht brauchen. Wir haben auf einer gemeinsamen Basis nie Verträge gebraucht. Wir hatten ein vertrauensvolles Verhältnis, das nahe an einer Freundschaft war. Entsprechend war ich von den Entwicklungen wirklich auch emotional betroffen. Ich habe die Verträge gesehen und gesagt: Das geht nun aber überhaupt nicht. Wir haben heute aber gesprochen. Natürlich wird nicht alles sofort wieder so sein, wie es war, aber ich sehe gute Chancen, das Verhältnis wieder aufzubauen." ""
Bierhoff presents everything as a misunderstanding now

did anybody on here watch the Löw interview in Warsaw ?`
Löw was FURIOUS and almost SHOUTING
in his high-pitched oestrogen soaked voice
Horeni from the FAZ already said that sources close to the Bundescremer said the Badenser had "internally" closed the Nationalmannschaft chapter
Horeni, of course, is the "Klinsi-sprachrohr" in the German media
@häschen
der Drops ist gelutscht
Heynckes or Sammer will lead us to Euro 2012 GLORY
splendid STUFF, says I
the MANNSCHAFT will beat the Poles in Posen, Danzig or Breslau
Football
truly
is COMING HOME
or as we Germans say
HEIM INS REICH
(the Kszcinski brothers will be livid, and Eva Hermann will be chuffed )
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